The Battle for the Consumer: Deciphering the Code to Product Innovation and Growth

3/10/2022
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Innovation and fast-track growth are areas of considerable interest no matter the changing landscape, and they’re intertwined with consumer interest. These themes led to compelling conversations during CGT’s 2021 Consumer Goods Sales and Marketing Summit (CGSM), and in this follow-up discussion, we dive deeper. 

It comes down to one thing, say experts: Brands don’t understand their consumers as well as they should. Blame it on a data deficit due to a gap in first-party sourcing for CGs, or the overwhelming data points that lead to analysis paralysis — the truth is, without the tools to measure and apply learnings, CGs fall behind, and product innovation suffers.

How can CGs compete? Are short-term or long-term data structures more valuable? How can brands encourage continued purchasing and data sharing? Which routes to market will drive profitability higher? Hear from three industry executives who have a front row seat to the tools and resources CGs need to bypass the complexities of data and consumer intelligence to accelerate their growth and establish winning innovation strategies.

In CGT’s latest webinar, SAP executives Sunny Neely, Jon Dano, and Paul Larson continue an insightful conversation on brand innovation and growth — topics at the heart of our last CGSM event. From new routes to market and product innovation to deciphering consumer sentiment, learn how to ensure the long-term health of an organization in an ever-changing marketplace. 

Tim Denman: Welcome to today’s webinar, ”Addressing Strategic Priorities for Brand Innovation and Growth,” which is hosted by CGT and presented in partnership with SAP. I'm Tim Denman, editor-in-chief of CGT, thank you for joining us today. As we all know, continuous growth is the lifeblood of the consumer goods industry. The brands that stay in place and refuse to evolve will see their market share slowly fade into nothing more than a memory.

To stay relevant, brands must accelerate growth and innovation plans to ensure the long-term health of the organization. At the annual Consumer Goods Sales and Marketing Summit in December, CGT and SAP hosted an interactive workshop to examine the current state of innovation, and how brands invest to fast-track growth. As part of this peer-to-peer, closed-door event, attendees were broken into small groups and encouraged to share firsthand experiences, as well as discuss the challenges and opportunities currently being faced.

Today, we're going to explore the key themes that came out of those discussions and expand upon them in an interactive panel discussion. With us today to explore the key growth and innovation themes that were discussed during the workshop are the facilitators of those discussions: Sunny Neely, Jon Dano, and Paul Larson, all from SAP. Gentlemen, thanks for joining us. Can each of you take a moment to discuss your professional background and current role at SAP?

Webinar Slide: Speakers
Webinar Slide: Speakers

Sunny Neely: Hey, I'm Sunny Neely. I'm in the consumer products industry business unit at SAP. Before that, I came into this from a practitioner standpoint, serving in brand leadership roles at Coca-Cola and Ferrero. I’m excited to take that perspective and apply it to some of the technology opportunities in the market today.

Jon Dano: Hello, everyone, my name is Jon Dano. I'm an industry executive advisor for consumer products at SAP. I've had a long career in consumer products at the Campbell Soup Company, holding various technology leadership roles and, most recently, in the commercial technology space. This subject area is a fun one and I look forward to the discussion.

Paul Larson: This is a great honor and opportunity to follow up on the great discussion we had earlier on in the year at the event. It's great to do this recap because things are moving so quickly and it's great to be here with Jon and Sunny, we work together a lot. 

Hello, everyone, my name is Paul Larson. I'm also an industry executive advisor for SAP in the consumer products industry. I've been with the company for over a decade, but I've been in the industry for 35-plus years — 25 of that was prior to joining SAP — I held leadership roles at PepsiCo and Miller Brewing Company. I spent a lot of time in stores, talking to buyers, and running businesses. It's great to have the opportunity to talk about these specific topics that are the lifeblood of the industry.

Denman: This webinar was inspired in part by the workshop CGT and SAP presented at CGSM last December. Some background information on the workshop and the post event recap is available in the “Webinar Resource” section. 

Webinar Slide: Strategic Priorities for Brand Innovation and Growth
Webinar Slide: Strategic Priorities for Brand Innovation and Growth

The workshop was born out of an ongoing collaboration between the two companies on something we call Reimagine Consumer Products. The project is an interactive digital hub that provides a wealth of information and solutions on five key topics driving the industry: reinvention, sustainability, supply chain, the consumer transformation, and growth. The final topic, growth, was the key component of the virtual workshop and breakout conversations, and will be the main topic of discussion today.

We have broken up the idea of growth into three key areas, which the panel will explore. The first piece of prolonged growth is understanding consumer sentiment. Consumer goods companies collect enormous amounts of data on customers, but collecting data is not enough. 

That data must be broken down and analyzed into meaningful insight that informs the company's initiatives and the peer-to-peer discussion. Participating CG executives admitted brands don't understand consumers as well as they could.

They struggle to discover an aha moment from the mountains of consumer data that is collected and are unclear on which tools to leverage to uncover true meaningful insight. 

Webinar Slide: Strategic Priorities for Brand Innovation and Growth
Webinar Slide: Strategic Priorities for Brand Innovation and Growth

Neely: It's funny this is a webinar talking about growth. Here we are, it's Q1, everybody's fired up about the new year and driving growth. The first thing we talk about is market research: is there a disconnect there? In the past there might have been because people were commissioning studies, and it would take three months to get into the hands of the people who could act on it.

That has changed with the rise of digital marketing and e-commerce. There's so much more data than we used to have, more information about the consumer that provides granular, real-time insight into the actions needed to connect with consumers. Having been in this industry for a long time, I love exploring how much more we now know about all the different aspects that can influence consumer shopping habits, channel preferences, etc. The rise of digital marketing, where CG companies can take advantage, has given more particular insight into consumers.

Now a debate has opened up about whether we only want to look at the transactional behavioral data with some of consumers' digital activity, or whether we need to think long-term and look at things such as brand awareness and consideration — some of the memory structures that brands create over the long-term to build equity. 

“Whether you look at the short-term or the long-term, that information needs to come together for a 360-degree view of consumers. That is going to be critical to success for consumer products companies in the short-term and the long-term.”
— Sunny Neely, Global Solution Director, SAP

Larson: Sunny, what do customers need to know about the consumer to be successful? Let's boil it down, what types of data do they need to make this work, to be successful, and drive revenue?

Neely: Great question, Paul. It’s critical that behavioral immediate real-time data I mentioned is relatively new to a lot of brand leaders. You’ve got information coming in on e-commerce, the website is playing a more important role than it used to, consumers' traffic patterns — what they're browsing and purchasing on the website — is giving insight that wasn't there before, if you're lucky enough to have a storefront, an e-commerce storefront.

Other brands are building up content portals. Molson Coors is a great example of building a content portal, creating a newsletter, then tracking the kinds of consumer behavior around the interest, and understanding the insights. 

On the immediate level, the view of point-of-sale data, Nielsen, IRI, and others, is never going to go away. Pulling that together with immediate behavioral data to understand how it's impacting sales is important. There’s a massive world of e-commerce ratings and reviews and ambient social media listening that should be coming together.

You're able to understand the contextual view of consumers in the short-term, but people should never leave it there. You need to take a step back and look at the big picture. 

“That's what brand tracking can be valuable for — things like brand tracking questionnaires presented in the context of large-scale trends within social media ratings and reviews, media spend, etc., can help give the data types that inform those short-term and longer-term strategic initiatives. It's a lot of data, to answer your question, and it's hard to say any of it could be dismissed. It’s all important.”
— Sunny Neely, Global Solution Director, SAP

Dano: Sunny, I love when you say “the rise of digital marketing” like it's some cool movie that's coming out. Maybe one of the big antagonists to the movie is for the consumer products companies saying, how do we gather all this data and where are we storing it? How do we make sense of it? It's a big challenge. 

Neely: It can be like a horror movie or a science-fiction horror movie, I guess. In fact in previous sessions that we had in Q4, talking to some of the customers, they said, "The data is chaos, we're trying to find our way through the chaos." Look, you've got to create a foundation, a central repository. There are a lot of platforms that can do this for you, a consumer data platform where all the information about each individual consumer is gathered together.

Remember, consumer products companies are facing a data deficit because they haven't had first party data in the past. Instead, they relied on the media ecosystem and retailers to have a direct relationship with consumers. 

Now that CP companies are building these first party databases, they can pull information together — whether the consumer is immediately known or not — they can progressively profile and build a unified record. That’s valuable because if the information is together in the same place, different interconnections can be segmented within consumers, making it easier to understand and take action.

This idea of a consumer data platform for gathering short-term data, but also a longer-term view. If you're going to go to the trouble of brand tracking, which plays an important role, asking questionnaires about awareness, asking people about how they rate the brand on certain critical attributes. At Coca-Cola it was things like taste, value, and positivity. 

“If you're going to track it, present it in a dashboard put together in context with everything you know about the consumer, including trends on social media and the way your brand is performing in ratings and reviews on e-commerce.”
— Sunny Neely, Global Solution Director, SAP

It's not easily done, but the idea of centralizing these massive disparate data silos into a single, unified record is critical for success. Don’t stop there though. If there's one takeaway in this section, it’s the data deficit. In fact, a lot of people talk about the data deficit that consumer price companies are facing, that data deficit wouldn't matter if it wasn't becoming an engagement deficit. 

The winners are going to be the ones that find a way to take the data and seamlessly bring it into action.

The closer the centralized consumer databases can be with the omnichannel consumer engagement platforms, the more successful you’ll be. When taking action, it allows different aspects and different ways of personalization to come together more deeply, making a more meaningful impact with consumers. That’s the main takeaway for me.

Larson: One more question. In our complex world, we have more and more data, more and more access — you can run, but you can't hide right in the virtual world. Actionable, automated things are going to save us. With all this data and information, we have to use it. We've got to make it actionable, but figure out a way to use that data to be more automated, in order to take that intelligent information and actually use it. Do you have something you can share with us based on more of an automated approach with all this information?

Neely: When you've got a centralized consumer database, you're able to put together elaborate targeting and segmentation for consumers. But then what do you do with that? These omnichannel engagement platforms that are available out there have proven tactics that are already in place. If there’s a particular type of consumer segment, or consumers in a particular disposition, trying to decide whether to purchase.

There are automated consumer journeys that can send them right that have been proven across different brands and categories. Those are examples of the short-term initiatives that can be automated and done without having to reinvent the wheel every time an opportunity comes up. Also, think about the bigger picture, within a brand tracker, an appropriate brand health platform, you can set up alerts.

“When there's a lot of consumer activity on social media or competitive activity, you can receive alerts and learn about that as quickly as possible, so that you can take time and take action.”
— Sunny Neely, Global Solution Director, SAP

Sometimes that is more important than anything else. If a competitor has made a massive media spend or lowered prices across the line, the sooner you know about that, the better in order to make concerted action. We all know it's not easy to steer the aircraft carrier unless you've got a few months advanced warning. The fact that we can have data automated and receive information in as near real-time as possible, is going to be key to success.

Those are some of the main points I wanted to cover on consumer sentiment. Understanding short-term transactional behavior data, understanding the bigger picture as well, so that all those building blocks are building into expanding and enhancing brand equity — that's going to pay off in the long run. 

Paul, you hit the nail on the head, we're not in the business of building libraries of information about consumers, we're in the business of engaging and driving greater consumer connection and impact across all the different touchpoints. Making that data work for you is the most important thing.

Denman: The second key growth topic is new product innovation. Consumer goods companies must continue to develop, refine, and launch new and improved products if they're going to stay relevant in today's hypercompetitive market. Over the past two years, consumer goods companies have been less focused on product innovation and more on getting products into the hands of consumers quickly.

“As we come out of the current health crisis, there's going to be a renewed emphasis on product innovation.”
— Tim Denman, Editor-in-Chief, CGT & RIS

During the peer-to-peer conversation on new product innovation, the participating CG execs covered a lot of topics. Some of the key discussion points were: supplier partnership management, skew reduction and simplification, marketing innovation, and how to innovate at speed. Jon, let's get the conversation on new product development started.

Dano: The key insight that came out of the workshop in December was a little bit surprising. There was a drawback from the new product development and product innovation to focus on getting product available, on the shelf, and fast. Obviously, there are challenges that we're all aware of. Additionally, there were indications that over those two years, the focus was on dealing with the hyper-demand from the consumer and getting the product on-shelf.

They were focused on digital innovation, and in some cases, that was prioritized over product innovation to connect with the consumer in a different way during this point in time where there wasn't as much innovation. Looking at a lot of that was looking at the rear view mirror. It's a new year, a new day. This business moves fast.

“What’s ahead of us is a big wave of new product innovation. It's going to play a big role and consumer product companies have been preparing for this.”
— Jon Dano, Industry Executive Advisor, Consumer Products, SAP

Obviously, the product innovation teams haven’t been sitting around watching Netflix — this is something they've been working on. Capability is required to get there. You're going to see a renewed emphasis on capabilities, such as innovation management, cost evaluation, design collaboration, product compliance, etc. that are necessary to ensure strong innovation from a speed perspective to the market, as well as make sure it's successful.

Neely: Jon, you mentioned it was a couple crazy years. New product innovation did take a little bit of a downturn in certain places, certain segments, but what were some of the actions that companies were taking to drive speed and availability in lieu of that NPD?

Dano: Companies had to think differently. The speed and availability was the critical measure from the consumer. There was a lot of the sentiment out there — companies were tracking it and did not want to see a consumer that was frustrated with lack of availability of the product. They were trading different products and didn’t want to lose the consumer. 

There was a strong emphasis on overcoming supplier issues through network expansion and making sure to get the right product that was needed to the shelf.

They were focused on skew reduction, eliminating the tail, and simplification to deliver speed and de-complex the supplier environment, which was challenged in terms of being able to get the right products to shelf. Then, finally, regardless of those challenges, we learned from a lot of consumer products companies that quality cannot be compromised. 

“The focus should be on delivering a strong quality of product. Regardless of product availability, if the quality goes down, that is a massive way to destroy the consumer sentiment of your brands.”
— Jon Dano, Industry Executive Advisor, Consumer Products, SAP

Larson: Jon, you think about new product innovation, but you also think about the digital new product innovation. What did some of the customers that were participants at the table talk about when they were looking at digital innovation? What did you hear in the session? Everyone's doing a great job at the shelf. They're owning the marketplace. But the digital marketplace is a whole new frontier — one that I'll talk about in a minute. The extreme double-digit growth in digital, how are you seeing that from digital innovation for new product introduction?

Dano: There were definitely some good insights. When talking about how this is going to be a big year for new product innovation, part of the reason is that companies have spent the time getting into digital innovation and connecting with consumers. 

Obviously, the consumer is the one that defines the innovation that's provided to the marketplace. 

Things like consumer experience innovation, where we saw a tool company building solutions to help guide and train the consumer on how to use the products. Getting closer to the consumer and building a relationship. The use of consumer sentiment data to understand what's going on with the consumer in the marketplace. 

There was an interesting example with this t-shirt company that we're talking to that started to gather consumer sentiment data and talked about small businesses that sell products and how the consumer was very concerned about these businesses closing during the pandemic. 

They leveraged that capability. That's the new insight from the consumer to help take some action and get into some cool fundraising capability to help these small businesses survive, which in turn, is beneficial to them. It’s really interesting.

Another big piece is adding first-party data. Sunny talked about this. This is beginning to demonstrate a path to significantly improve consumer intelligence, which is a priority for all consumer products companies. Finally, marketing technology investment. I joked earlier about the rise of digital marketing, but this is a catch phrase now. Everybody talks about e-commerce, how it took 10 years, and jumped into 10 months of innovation.

“The reality is, in general digital marketing capability, that acceleration was seen as well. It's all about figuring out the consumer journey. When you think about that consumer journey and get those insights, there's a direct correlation to how to introduce new product innovation."
— Jon Dano, Industry Executive Advisor, Consumer Products, SAP

As a quick example, I'm a soup guy. Condensed soup is a product that is from a demographic that traditionally has been more in the baby boomers and Gen Xers — maybe not so much in the millennials.

Over the course of the past couple of years, condensed soup has increased to 5 million new millennial households — 5 million. That's an entire new consumer set that was created in part by this hyper-demand. Now, how do you retain that consumer? 

You do it through some of the things we're talking about: consumer experience — connect with these consumers, talk to them about solutions, recipes they can make with this condensed soup, building loyalty to this experience, and getting them to pull that can out of the pantry and use it. Going beyond that hyper-demand of cleaning out grocery shelves to actually building this relationship with the consumer. 

This type of digital innovation is going to be driven once they've got this consumer to be able to produce more interesting products for them.

Neely: Jon, it's like you're telling my story over here. As a Gen X father of three, I doubled down on soup the last two years for sure. It's true, that's what we saw in the past couple years, this focus on the core business. Companies like Coke cut a lot of the long tail of the smaller brands and used some new product introduction. What do you see ahead? 

“In 2022, is new product development going to be back or are we going to see a continued focus on the core?”
— Sunny Neely, Global Solution Director, SAP

Dano: It’s back and in a big way. The reality is product innovation is in the DNA of consumer products companies — that's what they strive to do. Innovation is driven by the consumer as we've been talking about. Sure trade-offs were made during the peak crisis points of the pandemic to focus on availability, but it doesn't mean product teams were sitting around binge watching shows either. 

The ones that are going to win are the ones investing in connecting to the consumer in a personal way and getting more insights about the products, how they use them, what they like.

That is going to create a higher success rate when it comes to new product innovation because of the investment made in capability to connect with the consumer in a deeper way — in the various ways you talked about, some of the examples I shared — and you see it already.

I'm sure a lot of us watched the Super Bowl. There was a lot outside of the crypto ads, but there were a lot of new product launches that were announced during the Super Bowl commercials. You see it right there, as a big wave, for example.

Larson: That's a great example. I hate to bring this up, but let's talk about inflation. It’s affecting all of us. It's in the news. All of us that have run brands, delivered brands, and sold brands, and everyone on this call has been involved in price point, price elasticity. Everything that goes with new product introductions. 

“Obviously, companies have to understand the cost that's tied to their product, but what's the price point?”
— Paul Larson, Senior Principal, Industry Executive Advisor Consumer Products, SAP

By the way, inflation is moving every day. How do I establish that? How do I maintain it? How do I make sure it resonates well with the consumer and then my customer, my retailer, depending on how I deliver that pricing? We don't have to get into the nitty gritty on pricing, but how is inflation affecting new product development?

Dano: Honestly, it's a major factor. I'll give you a few stats: food at home has risen 6.4% during the past year from a pricing perspective. That's the largest 12-month increase since the period ending in December 2008. Prices have risen 7% in food in January alone — it's real. However, it can be a trigger for new product development because there’s a threat that inflation starts to impact consumers. 

CP companies across the board have been raising prices. As of now, from an elasticity perspective, there hasn’t been a negative impact on demand.

That doesn't mean companies aren’t preparing for it, though. As we know, this world has become very unpredictable. The reality of rising prices and other economic factors — think about how the government stimulus has gone away, savings may start to shrink, people are not staying at home — will hit the consumer free-cash flow. It has the potential to make consumers look for value shopping strategies, such as promotions and trading down. 

That influences the consumer products company's behavior when it comes to, in this case, new product development.

We see new product development as a response to these behaviors — could be packaging changes or product content reduction. For example, maybe there's not so many chips in that bag, but the price point remains the same and they're keeping the price the same. We've seen that in the past. 

The other day they were challenging the Etsy CEO on Squawk Box about how much chips are in the bag. Is it still the same? It is a reality and that's different, that's not necessarily innovation, but that's renovation or creating ranges of tiers of products that's differentiated at each price point in terms of economic opportunities or challenges. 

Of course, it also means new flavors, rich innovation, healthier choices that the shopper may be more willing to accept the price hike because they love the innovation. 

“It's a mixture of different types of products, innovation, and renovation to deal with inflation. That is even more important when we think about required capabilities, cost evaluation capabilities, how you manage innovation, design collaboration, product compliance, product formulation, etc.”
— Jon Dano, Industry Executive Advisor, Consumer Products, SAP

Smart capabilities need to be in place to be able to manage the dynamic nature of renovation, innovation, etc. It's all about speed to market. If you don't have the right capabilities in place, it's going to create more challenges to be able to react to these interesting inflationary pressures that all consumer products and consumers are under.

Denman: We're going to transition to our final growth topic now, which is new roots to market. Consumer goods companies have been exploring and building new roots to market aggressively over the past few years and that has only been accelerated thanks to the current market conditions. 

A savvy consumer goods company knows that the competition is going to explore these new sales channels and they need to be prepared to innovate in order to keep pace.

At our peer-to-peer workshop back in December, the CGs and attendants shared their company's experience over the past few years, as well as how they were able to pivot to meet changing demand. We discussed the evolving and important role of direct-to-consumer and the challenges and opportunities it presents. The group shared some of the important wins they experienced over the past couple of years, as well as the missed opportunities. 

Paul, how about you lead today’s discussion on the evolving route-to-market in the consumer goods industry? 

Larson: Sunny and Jon set this up well by talking about consumer sentiment and new brand introductions. How do you get to consumers? How do you use a product to be introduced? Looking at that, it's the route-to-market. No matter what industry you're in, no matter what sub-industry in consumer products — there's about nine of them, including the protein business, food and beverage, durables, AG business, animal protein, etc.

“There's traditional routes to market that drive approximately 80% of the business, but other routes to market have popped up and some of them aren't new. One of them in particular has been a very opportunistic area for most companies: the marketplace.”
— Paul Larson, Senior Principal, Industry Executive Advisor Consumer Products, SAP

That's Amazon, Walmart.com, and companies like that, which are called “the marketplace” and are growing double- or triple-digits per year. If you've been in that area or you have products that can be sold easily in that area, it's going to be the route-to-market that you spend time nurturing.

However, there's a lot to consider looking at one type of route when it comes to direct-to-consumer. Many companies are exploring their own ways to market through direct relationships. Sunny spoke about consumer sentiment, when companies have a robust database and the proper technology with the right data analytics to drive new routes to market. They can understand if it's worth it, if it's worth the squeeze.

 If I can understand my profitability a little bit better, and have the platform to understand my true cost of goods, what my laden cost is to get to that consumer, then I can understand my pricing dynamics on inflation.

The group at the workshop at the Consumer Goods Sales and Marketing Summit were talking about that direct-to-consumer model. Not that traditional markets market delivery is not going away because automation is providing many different avenues when it comes to providing the best route-to-market and how to process that income in order. 

Neely: Paul, during the pandemic there were big changes in the channel mix for CPGs, e-commerce — marketplaces went straight up and on-premise or food service went straight down. What seems to be regulating or is top of mind for the idea of routes to market with CPG leaders?

Larson: It is. In meetings last week with large consumer products companies, that was our topic: what's the route-to-market. I have five routes-to-market today, but only two strong routes were delivering the majority of business — it was down and automated. My logistics system was in place, but lo and behold, drivers and plant workers can’t be found. I'm not running a manufacturing facility for three shifts a day, now this has to be rethought out. Then, I have multiple forms of orders coming into my company.

“There needs to be an essential order platform to help sift through the volumes that are coming in and understand where my capacity will go. Then, I'll know which one of those routes to market to take to be most profitable and get the product to the shelf.”
— Paul Larson, Senior Principal, Industry Executive Advisor Consumer Products, SAP

You may think that sounds great — just go ahead and ship 10 truckloads of product to one of the marketplace companies and that will be the answer because it seems less expensive. However, committing to 24-hour a day delivery — or a two-hour delivery for fresh product — the money that you think is being saved by shipping truckloads to a marketplace company, may not actually be the right choice.

It’s important to understand what the specific route-to-market is and be able to manage those orders in an essential order process. Then, look at the route once again in order to run simulations that are the most cost effective, best for the consumer, the right price point and profitability for that particular product. Specifically, when a new product is being introduced. That may be a long-winded answer, but that's what I'm hearing and seeing in real-time.

Dano: It's interesting you mentioned the profitability. When you think about direct-to-consumer, the challenge of doing this profitably has to be top of mind. When you're talking to CPG executives, Paul, what are they telling you about the direct-to-consumer journey? Is this here to stay? Are they doubling down? Is profitability a challenge? What are they talking about?

Larson: Some of these conversations started six, seven, even eight years ago. Think back to the Shave Club business. Some of the pioneers of these new venture capital companies had a lot of private equity coming in to fund them. They didn't have big plants and manufacturing facilities, they had 3PL that was delivering products. They were marketing companies. 

Then, I'm talking to the big companies, the large companies that own the manufacturing facilities, they own their own distribution systems — they're not set up to pick, pack, and ship

It's difficult to change my packaging to shipping each-es instead of boxes, containers, or truckloads. It was painful, but it's become less painful because of the rapidly developing technology over the last couple of years. 

“We used to say there's been more change in the last five years than in the last 50, but now we're saying there's been more change in the last four months than the last five years.”
— Paul Larson, Senior Principal, Industry Executive Advisor Consumer Products, SAP

Rapid change, rapid development, but it's a fun conversation because we always seem to fall back into it. Then, when we start talking about what's profitable, topics like inflation. We look at the market, what are investors saying? We talk to private equity on a regular basis. At SAP, we're invested in the startup world, we think that can help everyone build business networks to try to solve some of these problems. It's a fun conversation.

Neely: I’d like to jump in here. We talk about direct-to-consumer. As a dyed-in-the wool brand manager, I would've loved to have people come to my brand's website, or set up a storefront and build the traffic around myself. You would think that the future would be more with marketplaces — the Amazons, Walmart.coms. What's your take on that? Is that the direction it's going in?

Larson: I'm seeing that, it's just so big. It's going from 78 billion to nearly 200 billion in the next four years, and that’s just for the consumer products of business. That’s a freight trend. A lot of these smaller companies, startup companies, and the mid-market have the ability to do a lot of the direct-to-consumer interaction. They started that way with their own pick, pack, and ship. That's going to continue, it's going to be a hybrid model. There's going to be a lot of M&A activity that will be driven because of this.

We need to have a whole new session on that, thanks for bringing it up. Here at SAP, we're focused on helping customers. We want you to be profitable, to be able to take care of your employees, and have the right technology to be able in your businesses, so we can continue on with our lives together and continue to delight the consumer.

Denman: Thanks, everyone. Let’s take a moment for some final thoughts from each of you and also some ideas of how we can keep this conversation going.

Dano: I would leave you with this point. All the factors going on, whether in the marketplaces, product innovation, or consumer sentiment, you need to be taking action.

“The capability is there to be able to connect to your consumer in a fundamentally different way, a more personal way — the way they want to interact and shop. Start making the investments to be able to get after this.”
— Jon Dano, Industry Executive Advisor, Consumer Products, SAP

Your innovation can be more effective and successful. Reach your consumer in the right marketplaces, capture the sentiment, and have a personal relationship with the consumer. If you're not there yet, we could help you, but it's of priority.

Neely: It's a great opportunity right here. There's a data deficit our industry has faced, but let's focus on that engagement deficit. How do you close that gap and become responsive and impactful across every consumer touchpoint? We are always happy to share success stories from different types of consumer products companies — large, small, different markets — that we work with. I hope we can bring some of those capabilities to a broader audience.

Larson: Tim, thanks so much for moderating today, it's always fun to work with you and my colleagues, Jon and Sunny. Those of you out there, let's get together and talk. If you found some of these topics exciting or areas where you need some support, that's what we're here for. If we don't have it, we can get it, we've got a great ecosystem. We're solving these problems, working with customers on a daily basis. Let's go out there, have some fun, and have a great 2022.

Denman: Thank you, Paul, Jon, and Sunny. Great conversation as always. Until next time, thanks to our sponsor, to everyone for listening, and to the speakers. Until we speak again, stay safe out there.

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